History of US Navy Sailors fighting on land

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    Interesting article about US Navy Sailors fighting on land like regular infantry, and I am not talking about special warfare. It is from Navy website.

    https://www.history.navy.mil/resear...abetically/s/sailors-as-infantry-us-navy.html

    It is talking about pre-modern times though. But I found it interesting. It is probably typical of most Navies around the world at the time. Basically for most of the history of human civilization, being a sailor is a lot like Black Sails or 300 Rise of an empire (Oh lord Eva Green). You will fight mano y mano. You will board ships. You will land on a beach and fight. And these are sailors not marines.

    cliff notes:

    Prior to modern times, use of sailors like infantry is considered major part of Navy's core competency. Regular training in small arms, boarding, landing parties part of everyday training.

    When US marines first created, they were very small in number and only used for small missions. Any large amphibious operations meant ship's crew is coming along. Not until 1933 did the fleet marine corp really take its modern shape.

    Up until around 1960, each ship depending on size had to maintain units ready for boarding, and landing.

    I wonder what it like in other countries. I dont think anyone else has a large Marine Corp like USA. What prompted me to look this is up, is I saw some vids of riverine patrols, and small boat operations, and of course watching Black Sails, and 300 Rise of an empire.
     
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    The Russians call it "naval infantry" which I think sums up the job pretty well.
     
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    I've seen plenty of Sailors fighting on land. The lead up to the battles usually looked like this.

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    the battle of Wake Island might be the most badass incident in warfare history. that was just marines/sailors holding off damn near the entire Japanese fleet

    also, funny enough the Marines were called 'Soldiers of the Sea' in one of the founding documents, b/c that's essentially what they are or were intended for (amphibious assaults, hence the name 'marines')
     
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    They still do if you count Seabees.
     
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    Marine and Sailor means the same thing in Spanish. Also i think most countries marines are just a part of the Navy.
     
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    I more familiar with sailors fighting Marines in bars myself.
     
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    I know my grandfather received 2 Purple Hearts in the Navy in WW2. I have no idea how though. Wish I did.
     
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    I always heard that the navy has marines on board because they smell a little better than sheep.
     
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    Yo no soy marinero.
     
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    They all group together carrying a ship and get mowed down.
     
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    I wonder if Sea Level Cain fights on land?
     
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    They do post and convoy security as well and did their fair share of cqb in Iraq (mainly assessing all the damage we did in Fallujah). They also use the rarely seen M16A3.
     
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    The United States Marine Corps is a department of the Navy.

    The Navy is pretty remarkable, besides having ships for sea battle and deployment they also have a pretty big force of plans and fighter jets(not counting the air wing of the Marine Corps), aircraft carriers, The Marine Corps as its ground force and pretty good special forces... They also have Corpsman that every Marine Unit has that are the medics for the Units.
     
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    I am sure over time since wars and battles changed people figure the Navy adapted with it which was true to a small extent. The Navy's mission was never intended to be a force that dives head first into sustained ground combat operations. The Army or the Marine Corps exist for that purpose and are fully capable of sustained ground combat operations. Fleets of ships and submarines make you a Navy. When you combine Navy and Marines together you make a Naval force.
     
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    My point is that Marine and Sailor are synonyms, the US makes that distinction for organizational purposes.

    So technically a Marine is a Sailor.
     
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    Soy capitán
     
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